8 Reasons Why Heavy Bags SUCK

November 23, 2008 November 23, 2008 by Johnny N Bag Training, Boxing Training 69 Comments

Why Heavy Bags Suck

YES, it’s true – hitting a punching bag all day might hurt your boxing skills. The main reason why is because over-training on a heavy bag makes it easy for boxers to develop bad habits.


Honestly, heavy bags don’t suck. There are just some negatives and disadvantages to using heavy bags all the time.

I had a feeling many people might be turned off by the title but I will ask you to please give me a chance to explain. The main purpose of a heavy bag is to increase your punching power. Yes, boxing is about punching but it’s not always about punching hard. Boxing also requires fast punching, combination punching, accurate punching, and timed punching. You can sure as hell bet that the heavy bag won’t help you in any of those departments!

Here goes, 10 reasons why a punching bag CAN hurt your boxing ability!

1. Lazy Eyes

MISTAKE - The number one problem that I’ve seen with heavy bags is that it develops what I like to call “lazy eyes” in boxers. What happens is boxers get a little too comfortable with the bag and start developing bad habits. They lose focus and take their eyes off the bag. The eyes start wandering past the heavy bag to look at other fighters in the gym, or they wander over to the mirror to check out their own punches. Some people look at the bag but aren’t really focused on what they are hitting.

CONSEQUENCE - Have you ever sparred someone in the ring and got punched by an easy punch that was coming straight for you? I remember getting frustrated  because I kept getting hit by the same easy straight punches over and over again. If this is happening to you, chances are, you’re training too much on a bag that doesn’t challenge your eyes to look for movement.

CURE - Use a double-end bag or a trainer with focus mitts. You need something that will grab your eyes’ attention. If you have to use a heavy-bag, make sure you ALWAYS keep your eye on the bag. When the bag is too close to you, back up so you can see it. Don’t get too close to the bag that it’s touching your shoulders and you’re looking behind it. Always keep the punching bag in your field of vision.

 

2. Bad Distance Control

MISTAKE - Some people will never learn how to control their distance with the heavy bag because they’re probably too focused on punching hard. The two common problems are letting the bag get too close, and letting the bag get too far. A lot of beginning boxers love to get real close to the bag as they unload a barrage of 20 punches to push it away. Other beginners will shove the bag around with their shoulders as if they’re mimicking a clinch. This is a HUGE NO-NO! Don’t ever get use to this, if you try this in a real fight, you will get uppercutted easily every time. As for letting a bag get too far, this is just plain laziness. Don’t ever let a bag swing too far away from you, quickly step in with fast footwork, plant your feet and hit it 2-3 times before you step and pivot out of the way. Don’t get into the lazy habit of always waiting for the bag to come at you. Start chasing the bag more often and circling it to keep up with the bag. If the bag doesn’t swing much, then the bag is too heavy. If the bag swings too much, you need to lighten up your punches or get a heavier punching bag.

CONSEQUENCE - If you don’t learn how to keep your distance and learn the exact reach of your arm, you will lose fights to other boxers that do. You might encounter a boxer one day that for some reason, always seems to be out of your reach yet you are always within his reach. You might also notice that every time you get too close to your opponent, he keeps beating you to the punch. The reason for all this is because he has a better sense of distance awareness than you do.

CURE - Be aware of your distance. Try not to get any closer to the bag than you need to land the punch. When you are in close against the bag, be VERY alert and quickly pull yourself out of range. Better yet, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THE BAG. Don’t hug it, don’t shoulder-push it, and don’t practice your Mike Tyson ducking movements around it. When the bag comes too close, make sure you back-step. When the bag swings away, step forward to reach it instead of waiting for the swing.

 

3. Bad Defense

MISTAKE - One of the biggest reasons against training too much on a heavy bag is because you might develop a bad defense. The bag is never going to hit you back so it’s easy for you to get carried away and drop your hands from time to time when you feel tired or over-confident. The punching bag can never tell a boxer if his stance or position has a hole in it. At the same time, it’s easy for a boxer to get carried away on the heavy bag over time as he slowly shifts his stance from a defensive one to an open one that allows him to hit harder.

CONSEQUENCE - The boxer might go into a fight and get beat up because nobody ever told him he had holes in his defense.

CURE - Work with a trainer or somebody who can punch back at you and make sure you can keep your hands up. Even someone throwing slow punches at you will help you keep your defense in check.

 

4. Push Punching

MISTAKE - Many boxers get carried away with the heavy bag and start trying to punch it as hard as they can. What happens is they try to make the bag swing as much as possible by pushing it as they try and punch through the bag. What this does is slow down their punches since they are busy pushing the bag but it also slows down their arm recovery time since they are too busy trying to push their fist through the back instead of pulling their arm back right away.

CONSEQUENCE - In a real fight or sparring match, the boxer starts overcommitting himself just like he does on the punching bag and starts throwing slower punches because he’s trying to maximize the power. His arms don’t retract as fast and he starts getting countered all the time because he only knows how to throw push punches.

CURE - Many pro-fighters like to call this, “trying too hard”. I use to commit this mistake all the time, and pro-boxers use to tell me to just relax and not try to always use my power when I box. The opposite of a push punch is a SNAPPING PUNCH. The snapping punch is much sharper and faster. When you first practice it, it may not feel like it hits hard since the emphasis is more on speed than strength. Over time if you practice, you will learn how to throw very fast and also hard stinging snappy punches just like Muhammad Ali. They are the BEST type of punches in boxing and if you don’t get past the push punches, you will NEVER be able to compete at the elite level.

 

5. Bad Balance

MISTAKE - Another common result of hitting the heavy bag too much is the development of bad balance. Beginner boxers like to focus too much on power and hitting the bag that they let their feet tangle up as they walk around the bag. Another common mistake is overcommitting to the bag and pushing all their bodyweight into every punch.

CONSEQUENCE - The biggest risk of overcommitting to every punch and putting too much power is when you miss your opponent. If you’re throwing all your weight into a punch and you miss the guy, it’s very easy for you to fall out of balance and get counterpunched.

CURE - The best cure for this is learning SHADOW BOXING. Every boxer should know how to throw hard punches  and hitting air without losing their balance.

 

6. Low Speed

MISTAKE - The problem with heavy bags is that there is no real emphasis on speed. I’ve seen boxers move around the heavy bag and throw all sorts of slow lazy punches because the heavy bag doesn’t force them to throw every punch with speed.

CONSEQUENCE - You’ll lose fights in the ring because your punches aren’t fast enough to get past your opponent’s guard. What’s the point having strong punches if they don’t have the speed to hit your opponent?

CURE - Use a speedbag or double-end bag to make sure your body is being forced to respond with fast accurate punches. This will also increase your accuracy in boxing!

 

7. No Uppercuts

MISTAKE - Many boxers that spend all their time practicing on a heavy bag often neglect two very under-used punches in boxing – the left uppercut and the right uppercut! The biggest reason is because they don’t have any of those specially designed bags that allow them to practice uppercuts.

CONSEQUENCE - Obviously, you’re going to have two less punches in your arsenal than your opponent does. The uppercut is very good at breaking tight guards as well as beating fighters that like to move their head a lot as they bob and weave inside your punching range.

CURE - Either start finding equipment that will allow you to throw uppercuts or get someone to hold the pads for you to practice your uppercuts. If worse comes to worse, you can still practice them on a regular heavy bag by throwing low punches with your elbows bent and palms facing upwards at the heavy bag.

 

8. Hand Damage

MISTAKE - One of the most common problems I’ve seen from over-training on the heavy bag is damaged hands. If you beat your fists against a very resilient object everyday, your hands will wear down! Your hand muscles will become bruised and your bones will ache. Sure bones and muscle can harden over time but you must give your body some rest. I see new boxers hitting the heavy bag for hours every single day in hopes of proving to themselves and other gym-goers how tough they are. Don’t become one of them!

CONSEQUENCE - Once you damage your hand, it will take a very long time to heal and you might not ever be able to punch as hard ever again. If you want some proof, please find someone who’s been in several bar fights and ask them about their hands. They’ll tell you all sorts of stories about how their hands can’t bend in certain ways or how their hands are always hurting. Of course, there will always be people who have higher density bones but don’t use this rare statistic as a reason for not protecting your most important weapons – your hands. If your hands aren’t damaged, you’ll develop other problems like tense shoulder muscles which will decrease your agility and punching speed.

CURE - Give your body some rest and do other exercises to work on your boxing.

 

Are Heavy Bags Bad?

Not at all. Obviously, a heavy bag doesn’t challenge your body in many different aspects of boxing other than power and it’s very easy to pick up bad habits. The heavy bag can give you a great workout but also very bad boxing habits. The remedy? Keep yourself in check at all times and do find the time to work on other boxing equipment!

Don’t worry. I want you to keep working that heavy bag and while you’re at it, here are some other guides on heavy bag training:

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69 Comments

cw February 15, 2009 at 2:48 pm

boxer
fair play id agree, off putting title but very valid points id say all points correct but can never disregard the fact that a heavy bag is always an integral and valuable asset 2 boxing gyms worldwide. But i think more emphasis should b made on a variety of training it the most valuable tool 2 any un or experienced boxers out there. good artical.

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nicky kramskoy December 5, 2009 at 11:02 am

mr
Interesting , but heavy bag work is still a good general excercise, it can improve your timing and if taught correctly learn how to punch with your legs.All boxing is timing , balance and body weight. A punch as long as there is body weight will hurt if it connects. Sparring and relaxing when sparring are also very important. Speed is only good with body weight . The trouble with pad work is as long as he calls the punch with the pad position not by command. the excecise will be benificial. Most importantly you can teach , train or whatever to a novice as soon as he has his first fight he starts to learn. gl

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kam January 28, 2010 at 7:05 pm

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Michael- boxing name- Mighty Mike February 5, 2010 at 7:17 am

I have to say I agree with everything that was posted. As a short compact fighter at 135 I have to learn alot of reaction timing, trapping/tracing, and getting in or taking away a punch in order to counter because of the dis-advantage of my size. But for the work I do to over come this situation, I rely on the speed drills and working with someone. To be honest i can do without the heavy bag i enjoy the double-end bag and mitts more. Im a south paw and I depend on this advantage and my one hand combos. To me they are very important.

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Jay Wozniak March 3, 2010 at 3:30 pm

Good article, but misleading title. All of the tools in the Gym have their pros and cons. You just need to consider and think about them all, the same way that you did in this article, and make sure you always keep the cons in mind when using the bag. For example, if you only hit mits and neglect the bag, your hands and joints wont build the resiliency they need; like for when you crush you first body hook onto your sparring partners elbow. The best cure is to maximize every tool throughout your trainning weeks. Still a great article here. I’d like to see how you break down some of the other tools of the gym in this same -Mistake, Consequence, Cure format.

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Ciaran Gunn April 8, 2010 at 9:37 am

I agree with what you and I use 1 solution the maize bag you can do all your usual punches plus uppercuts and I find overhands easier another thing is that the bag swings more which means I get into the habit of slipping and ducking also if I take my eyes off the bag Ill probaly get hit with it so my eyes dont get lazy and I like to throw counters just after dodging which I believe will help my speed with returning punchs before my opponent can bring back their hands through there are cons like hand damage is probaly increased with theses usually solid bags push punching can still become a habit and finaly you cant throw punches low down

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max April 9, 2010 at 2:14 am

thank you!
so I’m a beginner, working with the heavy bag, and my hands and wrists have been pretty achy. Now I know why.
Note to self: Punch less hard and punch faster. Use heavy bag (the one I use is really heavy) correctly, and less frequently. This was helpful, thanks!

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thaiboxer May 3, 2010 at 11:07 pm

i don’t agree with the article
heavy bag is the best! DEVELOPS POWER! DID YOU HEAR POWER! yeh u can hit pads yeh you can hit each other in sparring but nothing will develop your power like the heavy bag so get on them asap!

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TheSweetalchemist September 11, 2013 at 11:16 am

I’m punching the heavy bag with 65 lbs dumbells on each hand, 2 hours everyday for 2 months. Sparring day comes & I’m swinging & miss.

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A September 12, 2013 at 5:46 am

65 lbs dumbells ??!??!?!??!

ARE YOU SUPERMAN?!

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TheSweetalchemist October 3, 2013 at 5:18 pm

No I’m a NORMALMAN.

Try the Rocky Balboa 65 lbs dumbell punches like he does in this clip at mark 2:21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ2UVRLBkTs

You can do it easily when you’re hitting a heavy bag, so there is no deceleration.

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Johnny N October 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm

Hahaha, that is so bad! I can assure you real boxers (outside of hollywood) do not train like that.

TheSweetalchemist December 22, 2013 at 6:43 pm

Ross Enamait trains like this. Would you like to fight him to find out?

TheSweetalchemist December 22, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Ross Enamait trains like this. Dont wanna fight him to just find out after he rips you apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pv_1j4dH0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIWSct_Uec

Johnny N December 27, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Great videos but they don’t prove your point. He is NOT hitting the heavy bag while holding dumbbells or throwing punches with weights strapped onto his arms. There’s a big difference between what Ross is doing (real life boxing trainer) and what Rocky is doing (Hollywood movie).

Johnny N September 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Who told you this?! I would say the focus mitts develops more power than the heavy bag, easily.

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Mister T February 1, 2014 at 6:53 am

Tbf Rocky’s trainer does state at the start of that clip that he’s going to have to train for sheer strength as he’s too old to move very fast lol

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David Rowley July 5, 2010 at 8:00 am

I agree with a many of the comments, a lot of top professionals like Nigeal Benn and Joe Calzage steered clear from heavy bags due to the wear and tear aspects, especially in the hands,sholder and elbow joints. I think the bag is a fundamental tool to develop power and stamina for beginners, but not as compulsary for experienced fighters. I tend to vary my bag workouts nowadays working on heavy bags and light bags and concentrating on either speed or brutal power, and will always finish off on a medium weight bag where I put the too aspects together. However nowadays i tend to prefer the floor to ceiling ball and don’t use bags every session.

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Nicolas February 2, 2011 at 11:18 am

As someone said the problem is noy the bag itself, because each tool has it’s advantages and disadvantages, i think the problem is that normally people always dedicate more time to the bag than other tools, so that’s when it becomes a problem.
Also i’m sure most beginners love to just punch the bag as hard as they can, and because it doesn’t punch you back they feel very comfortable in there. Well, i think it happens to us all xD
Btw, great post and amazing website, i’m learning a lot =)
Cherrs!

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ODOLLA October 31, 2011 at 9:07 am

*sighs* That’s all I have is a heavy bag. I have about 5 heavy bags….and literally EVERY mistake you listed, I’ve done. :(

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Johnny N November 1, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Lol, I’ve done all the same, too. I guess you could say we’re “experienced”.

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TheSweetalchemist September 11, 2013 at 11:07 am

I’m guilty of all this. Thanks Johnny. I was thinking of buying a “BOB” punching dummy. Til I read this.This is the reason why someone would look really amazing in the speedbag, heavy bag, & punchmitts. But when it comes to sparring they SUCK big time.

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Meatogz December 9, 2011 at 6:11 pm

To develop real power without getting locked(up) or sending someone to the emergency room, the heavy bag is a staple for getting ur WHOLE BODY in to punches…respect training, all training!

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MeatDogz December 9, 2011 at 6:15 pm

Thats
MeatDogz!….. love, train

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colin December 30, 2011 at 10:23 pm

Don’t u find that these days everyone is all about giving advice. All these comments, you’d think everyone was a pro boxer. Irritating

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Johnny N January 3, 2012 at 1:54 am

LOL, colin! I know what you mean ;)

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Mark February 15, 2012 at 7:29 am

Good article as usual!

One issue which I suppose occurs quite often when hitting the heavy bag is that you often hit too low. I’ve trained with heavy bag for a few months now (done 6 months of boxing) and it wasn’t until very recently when I realized that when I’m aiming to the “head” I actually hit the chest. I hit over 10 inches below than I should! Also I learned that when I tried to hit the body level, I actually hit the height of the genitalia. So now looking backwards it seems that I spent like three months how to crush balls and hit the chest. Then I started looking at a few (novice level) friends of mine who were doing pretty much the same thing.

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Carter G March 4, 2012 at 8:48 pm

Great Article! I find it can be easy to make mistakes solo on the heavy bag. During bag rounds my club is always punching, holding, or squatting at any given time during the round. If your bag partner messes up, you let them know. This eliminates a few issues however this article holds it’s own, the bag is inherently flawed.

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conor March 31, 2012 at 5:58 pm

hi johhny, im 57 kilos and i was wondering if hitting a heavy bag 100 lbs would slow your hands down if your hitting the bag everyweek but not over training and hitting the bag for to long and by the way thanks i really appreciate your articles they have been a huge help to me, keep it up.

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Johnny N April 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm

Conor, the bag won’t slow you down. It’s just that you could be spending that time and energy working on other exercises that are better for developing speed.

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John S June 20, 2012 at 3:20 am

I find this article interesting and highly agree. What’s also interesting I am the inventor of mechanical punch arms that punch at real human speeds and attach to any heavy bag or BOB. You mentioned that you have to admit you don’t see much benefit to them, yet you go on here to say a bag does not punch back, focus loss, poor defense, slowness, distance, etc, etc. Can you at least see why I laugh at the “logic”?

Other than that, I think you’re a great person and I enjoy all the knowledge you kindly share. Read your article about gloves because I am seeing the need for better gloves than the light ones I have been using. Like you said, you have to protect your hands.

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Johnny N June 20, 2012 at 11:19 am

John, the heavy bag was intended to be used for taking punishment. For this purpose, it has served amazingly well.

Your mechanical punching arms were intended to be used as a substitute for an attacking opponent. Because of that difference, I assumed your equipment would fall short in some areas. I don’t know for sure because I’ve never tried it but I hope you understand why I judged it differently.

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Joey October 9, 2012 at 11:17 am

I just finished a heavy bag workout, and my hands are killing me. I am a southpaw, and for a few seconds my hand wouldn’t stop shaking. How can I prevent this, and how can I make my workout better?

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Johnny N October 11, 2012 at 10:36 am

I imagine it might be one or more of the following factors:
– ineffective hand wrapping method
– maybe you’re punching with bad technique
– maybe you’re training on the heavy bag too much
– maybe you’re injured (from one of the previous factors…or something else)

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Dean June 24, 2013 at 1:11 pm

Hey Joey, i think you may be clenching your fists too tight. You need to relax your fists inside your glove before you connect and you may have the wrong gloves. Some gloves make it hard to form a true fist and you end up hitting more with your fingers than your fist. Try a new pair that allows your fingers to wrap a tighter fist.

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thg November 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm

hey Johnny,

excelent article again (my first comment here, but I am always visiting)…

I dont speak english very well and Im kind of new on boxing…

could you explain the “Mike Tyson ducking movements”? lol

congrats from Brazil

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Johnny N November 6, 2012 at 12:44 pm

I will do that later! Thanks for your comment.

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Anthony November 19, 2012 at 10:43 am

This is bull after learning how to use the bag you can work on your distance movement speed everything maybe you had a bad trainer I have seen kids not use the bag they get in the ring and they suck

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Ian November 20, 2012 at 9:41 am

Clearly you based this comment solely on the title without reading the article. The writer explains that relying on bags entirely at the expense of other training can be detrimental.

Your last comment is also a no brainer. If someone hasn’t used a bag, they obviously aren’t a boxer (no such thing as a boxer that doesn’t use a bag). Therefore, of course someone with no training will suck. Whoever let them even step in the ring in the first place is an idiot.

I’m not the writer, but seriously…..come on….

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mak March 20, 2013 at 9:48 pm

Very nice article.. and do you mind if I ask what kind/brand and model of the heavy bag hanger in your picture? I don’t like my heavy bag stand as its hanging it too low

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Johnny N March 21, 2013 at 3:55 am

I have no idea what heavy bag stand that is. I generally don’t like heavy bag stands. I recommend only to use heavy bags that are mounted off the ceiling so you can fully move around them as the bag swings with total freedom.

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ROB April 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm

Title of the article needs to be changed, It should of been how to use a heavy bag effectively, plus some points need to be changed. There’s some points I agree and disagree, for instance shadow boxing will cause you to dislocate your shoulder if you throw hard, and if you don’t then you end up getting sloppy, thats the main reason for the bag to avoid that specific injury. If your new to the game, get someone who is well inform to teach you how to utilizing a heavy bag. Heavy bag and sparring training are the only best method in developing your skill as a fighter. Plus, speed bags are useless, they really don’t emphasis on striking or speed, just as worthless as a head gear for protecting you from brain damage. Heavy bags do increase speed, the bigger and stronger man you are the less endurance you have, so what your seeing is a lack of stamina and possibly his bad ability to conserve his energy . If your opponent has a better reach advantage, don’t waste your time with jabs, just take his jabs, move in and throw a hook or upper cut.

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Harsh Shah August 12, 2013 at 8:56 pm

I agree with all that is said but still those are factors which would come into play if you don’t have a professional teaching you and guiding you. These factors are really not a concern if you have taken official classes for at east 6-months on a regular basis because a good professional teacher will always mention these things over and over again not just for heavy bag training but also for pad work, sparring and other things.

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Harsh Shah August 12, 2013 at 9:06 pm

I have only taken karate classes for about a years and not thing more and I already knew these facts, so if you are taking boxing classes or mma or kickboxing or whatever these factors should really not come into play unless your teacher is a totally idiot or you really don’t care about whatever it is you are training in.

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Johnny N August 13, 2013 at 4:52 am

Exactly, many of these tips will not be necessary if everyone was being taught the right way. Heck, my site wouldn’t be this popular if great boxing instruction was readily available everywhere.

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UKBritton August 29, 2013 at 10:51 am

Love the Site keep up the good work and thanks

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Toshihiko October 25, 2013 at 4:19 am

Got a question about boxing stands specifically the 3 way boxing stands that have a heavy bag, double end bag and the speed bag. Are they worth getting for an apartment if you don’t always have time to go to the gym?

If so, any recommendations on a brand or website?

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Johnny N November 8, 2013 at 6:13 pm

I hate those stands as they aren’t particularly good at either one. The heavy bag and double-end bag are completely blocked off so you can’t move around them a full 360 degrees. The speed bag platform usually wobbles too much. And the whole thing is usually unstable and makes so much noise that you probably wouldn’t be allowed to use it in your apartment anyway.

If I had to choose, I would simply go with a double-end bag mount in your place. It’ll give you a full 360 degree movement and make minimal noise and take up minimal space. You can also do a heavy bag as well. But for the speed bag, you really need a dedicate high quality one or else it’ll wobble all over and mess up your rhythm. You’ll see what I mean.

Either way, I couldn’t do with these methods as there’s no substitute to training in a gym. (More friends and fun at the gym.) Then again, me and you may have different expectations of our boxing training.

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Kev December 1, 2013 at 8:04 am

you do realise that the second-hardest hitter ever (George Foreman) was a push puncher?
I dont see how push punching is a disadvantage

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Johnny N December 1, 2013 at 12:52 pm

Perhaps you can go to a boxing gym and ask trainers and other boxers to show you in person. That would be the easiest way for you to learn.

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Tom E April 7, 2014 at 5:25 am

What I have noticed about Foreman is that his push is more to set up. IMO Foreman and a lot of other knock out artists is that they have very little elbow extension but get a lot of power from their trunk twist. Foremans arm would already be mostly straight when he made contact on his knockout punches. But to your point, yes Foreman used the heavy bag a lot. But he also sparred a good amount, and he was bigger than a lot of people. In most combat sports, heavy weights can sort of operate under different advice.

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Zia March 11, 2014 at 11:01 am

What’s the best way to determine the progress with punching bags? If you start doing weight training, its very easy to determine the progress. For example, you may start with 5 lbs, then reach to 7lbs, then 10, the progress is simple to note, how do you do this with punching bag workout?

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Johnny N March 23, 2014 at 5:59 pm

With the punching bag…it goes by the way you feel. If you’re able to throw more punches and with more power and precision, you’re improving. If you can’t feel any difference, you might not be improving very much if at all.

Besides, the end game is to improve your performance in the ring. If the way you train doesn’t improve that fighting performance…then you need to be training differently.

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gem March 13, 2014 at 8:12 am

i only started hitting the heavy bag recently (as of last week), and i think i’m doing it wrong, because i come home with elbow pain.

for some reason when i punch, i feel as if i push the bag away instead of punching it properly. when the trainer is beside me, i seem to get it correctly, but if he goes away and i practice on my own, i can’t get it right again.

i also tried to copy what’s in your other post on how to hit a heavy bag, but it seems impossible for me to “snap back” naturally.

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Johnny N March 23, 2014 at 6:00 pm

These things take time to develop. Focus on being relaxed rather than being powerful.

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Zia May 6, 2014 at 11:44 am

Distance Awareness. This has gotta be one of the most important aspects of good boxing that always seems to get glossed over. Learning your reach and getting it well ingrained in your mind will help you understand how to hit hard and pivot out. I also liked the bit about how easy it is yo build bad habits on the heavy bag. That’s something I see all to often in the gym. Thanks again for the write-up Johnny.

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Danny May 8, 2014 at 11:40 am

I agree with 8) Hand Damage. But it’s not a black or white issue. You do need to accustom your hands to punishment to a certain degree, but it is important not to overwork them.

I half agree with 7) Uppercuts. You can still throw body uppercuts on a heavy bag, and that’s actually a great exercise for learning to throw your hips into a body shot.

I strongly disagree about not getting close to the bag. In fact, I think fighters don’t work at that distance enough. That’s why you see a lot of clinching and wide misses from boxers who are right in each other’s faces. Leaning up against the heavy bag will help you generate more power with your body and less with arm wind ups. This is critical for success inside. If you improve this skill, you can absolutely have your way with someone who has only worked at medium and long range distances (provided you can close the distance, of course).

I understand the general point of your article though. I just think that a lot of the bad habits you describe are more the result of lazy training than the specific equipment being used. You can develop bad habits in any training activity.

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Johnny N July 22, 2014 at 6:32 pm

I agree about it being possible to practice uppercuts to some degree on the heavy bag. And yes, there’s a difference between “being lazy and leaning on the bag” vs “working your inside game”. Good comments.

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inquisitor July 17, 2014 at 12:35 pm

I don’t train with boxing in mind, but more of the bare knuckle fighting related to street fighting and non-sport martial arts. So bag gloves and ring gloves are not even a part of my equation.
Without the extreme padding of gloves and training for bare knuckle use even the way you throw and land a punch is different than boxing.
I will use hand wraps and after a long time of hitting with bare knuckles, then wraps will switch over to a pair of MMA gloves if I want to extend hitting the bag without risking doing too much on the hands.
So I use a homemade 25 pound maize bag filled with rice and dried chick peas to hit with my bare fists and this is placed either at the body or chest level.
I use another fifteen pound maize bag mounted utop this larger maize bag at head level. In the beginning it was also filled with rice and beans, slowly over time, it has been replaced with ever increasing amounts of sand. As my hands have gotten conditioned over a couple of years this bag is now completely full of sand.
I use another sixty pound canvas bag as my heavy bag. This is filled with a bag of sand and lots of padding as it too is used without padded bag gloves, but bare knuckles, wraps or MMA gloves.

Try watching videos on youtube from “barefisted” for some advice in this regard.

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troy July 20, 2014 at 7:00 am

Actually a really good article.

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Franck July 21, 2014 at 10:18 am

Depuis le temps que je voulais le lire cet article, finalement j’ai pas attendu qu’il soit attendu pour lire. Je rajouterai que les gros sac de frappe ne poussent pas les gens à être précis.

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ROBERT THOMAS August 27, 2014 at 8:44 pm

I agree with you for the average boxer but am wondering about my own boxing approach that uses the power of the the locked body core tri-muscle complex to strike through a standing opponent like a bullet would go through and send the opponent flying backward. For this punch that I aim at the middle of the chest sternum, blocking it with the forearms makes no difference in the result. This punch also requires a full wrist twist with most of the power at the hand end of the twist as it drills through the body. Everyone I have seen uses the snap punch on the large bag so that it never flies anywhere. I call punch that is powered by the body core that I also use for lifting as the “Tiger Lift Boxing Power Punch.” My boxing preparation joy is to send the large bag flying wildly and right into the ceiling. When the large bag is flying high all over the place like that I have fun striking it like a moving opponent. Since such punches can tear the large bag out of the ceiling and send it flying, the fun of striking it like a moving opponent did not last long. Actually, I was stopped almost immediately by the gym manager after barely missing a ceiling light. Even then it was already too late with the bag ceiling connection torn loose. I was barred on the spot from striking that bag. The gym had another large bag that was attached to a steel frame and held by a steel spring. That one I smashed onto the concrete pillar that was holding steel frame and the bag. My practices punches broke the steel spring in half. See my Youtube video, “Fifteen Minutes of Boxing Horror”.

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Ben Med September 6, 2014 at 2:02 am

Hi johnny ; we hang our heavy bags in the gym from the ceiling using long chains which will result in too much swings , is it normal ? to let experienced fighter work with them , we thought about changing it to wall brackets like ” RDX Heavy Duty Punch Bag Wall Bracket Steel Mount Hanging” , what is your thoughts on this , any piece of advice . thank you.

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